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Muse 2 signal vs. Muse S signal and high deltas
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 6:36 pm
by SamG
Hello everybody,
I have used the Muse 2 and Mind Monitor for a week now but I'm wondering if the Muse S would have been the better choice. I've seen a YouTube video by Cody Rall about how the Muse S produces cleaner Signals on the TP9 and TP10 sensors (if they are the actual sensors?).
The thing is that I get a high amount of delta waves during meditation and also while looking at the waves and now I'm wondering if it is due to a noisy signal or if this is actually what my brain produces.
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Can't seem to get a cleaner signal than this.
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My deltas during meditation.
So what do you think? Is it worth getting the Muse S instead or is it just my brain??
Thanks for reading!
Re: Muse 2 signal vs. Muse S signal and high deltas
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 6:39 pm
by James
High Delta when awake is almost always just a result of a noisy signal.
The Muse S won't magically eliminate signal issues, but because the electrodes are on a soft structure, it a little easier to get the fit right.
Re: Muse 2 signal vs. Muse S signal and high deltas
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 7:05 pm
by SamG
Thanks for the quick reply!
In the video they talk about the Muse S using different behind the ear sensors than the Muse 2. Electrodes like the front sensors instead of the rubbery ones!? So it gives a more comparable signal.
Also your own example of a good signal looks better than mine!? And was maybe produced by a Muse S?
https://mind-monitor.com/img/mm-screen-3.jpg
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I'm already using all the tricks to get a better signal but can't get it any cleaner.
Re: Muse 2 signal vs. Muse S signal and high deltas
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 7:55 pm
by James
This screenshot was from a Muse 2.
Re: Muse 2 signal vs. Muse S signal and high deltas
Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 10:17 pm
by SamG
Oh ok, I see. And the same kind of problems occur with the Muse S I assume from yor last reply.
I'll try some more then.
Thank you!
Re: Muse 2 signal vs. Muse S signal and high deltas
Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 10:51 am
by James
I have been able to get a high quality signal from both the Muse 2 and Muse S. But, I do find the S more comfortable.
Re: Muse 2 signal vs. Muse S signal and high deltas
Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 4:04 pm
by SamG
Good to know!
I've been able to get a better signal by waring a beanie over the Muse.
This is me just sitting for ten minutes with open eyes:
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I think it is pretty normal looking!?
And this is me meditating with eyes closed:
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For some reason still the high Delta. I tried it several times and made sure the signal was good, but still the same result.
I don't think it's a problem with the Muse anymore though.
Maybe it's just the way I meditate or maybe some small unconscious eye movements I don't know..
Re: Muse 2 signal vs. Muse S signal and high deltas
Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 4:33 pm
by SamG
Yeah I'm pretty sure it's my eyes moving really fast. I can feel them moving when I touch them gently. Also the signal is getting more jitter. Must be it.
Thanks for you patience James!